Jen's first time in Capeside

[stinagirl14]

In the episode, "Four Stories" today, Jen told her therapist that "it
all started the day before her sophomore year", "it" being her
longtime friendship with Joey, Dawson, and Pacey. But in the pilot
episode, which was the day before freshman year, Jen shows up for the
first time and is friends with the rest of the gang for the rest of
the episodes. Was this a mistake in the writing of the script or is
there something I don't know?

[Sharpe Fan]

Post by stinagirl14
In the episode, "Four Stories" today, Jen told her therapist that "it
all started the day before her sophomore year", "it" being her
longtime friendship with Joey, Dawson, and Pacey. But in the pilot
episode, which was the day before freshman year, Jen shows up for the
first time and is friends with the rest of the gang for the rest of
the episodes. Was this a mistake in the writing of the script or is
there something I don't know?

The first two seasons (or actually 1 and 1/2 seasons) are all during the
sophomore year.

Season one (a half season) was the beginning of their sophomore year and
season two (after the McPhee's arrived) was also in their sophomore year.

Sharpe Fan

[DRP535]

What does all this "freshman", "sophomore", "senior" year stuff mean?

Obviously I'm not in the USA, but it sure would help out if someone could
explain it all. At what age does high school start in USA and what years do
these names refer to?

Same thing for the college/university years.

DRP


On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:43:50 GMT, "Sharpe Fan"

Post by Sharpe Fan

Post by stinagirl14
In the episode, "Four Stories" today, Jen told her therapist that "it
all started the day before her sophomore year", "it" being her
longtime friendship with Joey, Dawson, and Pacey. But in the pilot
episode, which was the day before freshman year, Jen shows up for the
first time and is friends with the rest of the gang for the rest of
the episodes. Was this a mistake in the writing of the script or is
there something I don't know?

The first two seasons (or actually 1 and 1/2 seasons) are all during the
sophomore year.
Season one (a half season) was the beginning of their sophomore year and
season two (after the McPhee's arrived) was also in their sophomore year.
Sharpe Fan

[Deanne]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:03:27 +0800, DRP535

Post by DRP535
What does all this "freshman", "sophomore", "senior" year stuff mean?
Obviously I'm not in the USA, but it sure would help out if someone could
explain it all. At what age does high school start in USA and what years do
these names refer to?
Same thing for the college/university years.
DRP

Hi. In the U.S. high school is generally 9th - 12th grade. Schools
usually start with kindergarten and then go first - 9th grade. Most
kids are about 6 when they start first grade, but some are a bit
younger and some are actually older, depending on the state they live
in or even the rules of the local school system.

High school years:

9th grade - Freshman
10th grade - Sophomore
11th grade - Junior
12th grade - Senior

On DC, they didn't show their freshman year. They may have even
implied that their sophomore year was their first year of high school
(I'd have to watch again to be sure, but I seem to remember someone
saying something about starting high school...), which could have been
the case. Nowadays, most school districts have middle school (usually
6th - 8th grade) and then high school (9th - 12th grade). However
when I was in school, we had junior high instead of a middle school.
Our junior high was 7th - 9th grade and high school started with 10th
grade--or the sophomore year. I was never a freshman in high school
because my high school didn't have 9th grade. :-)


In college, it's pretty much the same as high school:

1st year college: Freshman
2nd year college: Sophomore
3rd year college: Junior
4th year college: Senior


Deanne

[Katschthaler]

Post by Deanne
1st year college: Freshman
2nd year college: Sophomore
3rd year college: Junior
4th year college: Senior
Deanne

Does that mean that you've definitely finished college after those 4 years?
[that sounds pretty cool to me, because here it is ..like... you've done all
your classes, then write your paper, then you get the degree and this
usually takes a lot more than 8 semesters (4 years)...]

all the best and sorry for the OT, but I'm really interested.

andie

[Sharpe Fan]

Post by Katschthaler

Post by Deanne
1st year college: Freshman
2nd year college: Sophomore
3rd year college: Junior
4th year college: Senior
Deanne

Does that mean that you've definitely finished college after those 4 years?
[that sounds pretty cool to me, because here it is ..like... you've done all
your classes, then write your paper, then you get the degree and this
usually takes a lot more than 8 semesters (4 years)...]
all the best and sorry for the OT, but I'm really interested.
andie

Some people (and programs) take longer, but the standard is to get your
bachelor's degree after four years of college.

Sharpe Fan

[DRP535]

Post by Deanne
9th grade - Freshman
10th grade - Sophomore
11th grade - Junior
12th grade - Senior

Where does the word Sophomore come from? The rest are plainly obvious, but
what does Sophomore mean?

[Happy Dummy]

Post by DRP535

Post by Deanne
9th grade - Freshman
10th grade - Sophomore
11th grade - Junior
12th grade - Senior

Where does the word Sophomore come from? The rest are plainly obvious, but
what does Sophomore mean?

The word was probably introduced into the United States at an early date,
from the University of Cambridge, England. Among the cant terms at that
university, as given in the Gradus ad Cantabrigiam, we find Soph-Mor as
``the next distinctive appellation to Freshman,'' but the term has now
almost ceased to be known at the English university from whence it came.

[Deanne]

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:49:10 +0800, DRP535

Post by DRP535
Where does the word Sophomore come from? The rest are plainly obvious, but
what does Sophomore mean?

My dictionary says: "student in the second year at a high school,
college, or university" That's the only definition given, but I know
I have heard it used in more general terms to mean the second year of
anything and/or to mean not quite a novice but not an expert either.

However, the term "sophomoric" has two definitions--the first one is
"of or pertaining to sophomores" but the second is "intellectually
pretentious and conceited but immature and ill-informed."

I won't claim to have the world's greatest dictionary, though. hehe

Deanne

[mbg]

Not all of Canada.. just Ontario (OAC = Ontario Academic Credit)

:)

In Canada we use all those terms for high school and university & college.
Also I know sophmore is commonly used for albums as well. (ie this is
"insert name here"'s sophmore album)
Also, Canada used to have 5 years ofhigh school. Grade 9-12 and then 13
which was OAC. But this was the last year OAC was used so starting now we
only have 4 years.
Jen

Post by Deanne
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:49:10 +0800, DRP535

Post by DRP535
Where does the word Sophomore come from? The rest are plainly obvious,

but

Post by Deanne

Post by DRP535
what does Sophomore mean?

My dictionary says: "student in the second year at a high school,
college, or university" That's the only definition given, but I know
I have heard it used in more general terms to mean the second year of
anything and/or to mean not quite a novice but not an expert either.
However, the term "sophomoric" has two definitions--the first one is
"of or pertaining to sophomores" but the second is "intellectually
pretentious and conceited but immature and ill-informed."
I won't claim to have the world's greatest dictionary, though. hehe
Deanne

[Deanne]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:22:17 +0800, DRP535

Thank you for that comprehensive answer Deanne, that clears up a lot for
me. Just one more question. Do you know if it's the same deal up in Canada
as well?
I remember a show that was on when I was at school called Degrassi Junior
High and I never knew exactly what "junior high" actually meant until now -
but that was a Canadian show set in Canada so it might be a bit different I
guess.
Dean

I don't really know much about Canadian schools except they go one
year longer than in the U.S.--high school is five years from what I
understand. I'm not an expert on that, though. :-) I had a friend
in Canada that told me that once years ago and I remember reading an
interview with Josh Jackson in which he mentioned that in passing too.
That's about all I know about it.

I actually don't know if they use the same terms (like "freshman" or
"sophomore") in Canada.

Deanne

[Deanne]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:22:17 +0800, DRP535

Post by Deanne
Hi. In the U.S. high school is generally 9th - 12th grade. Schools
usually start with kindergarten and then go first - 9th grade.

Oops! I just noticed I had a goof here! Schools usually start with
Kindergarten (usually about age 5) and go through 12th grade, not 9th
grade, but it's not all in the same school building. <G> (Nowadays
many kids also go to preschool starting at age 3 or 4, too, but that's
not necessarily public school.)

Usually elementary or grammar school is kindergarten through 5th or
6th grade. Middle school is 6th - 8th grade or 7th - 8th grade.
(This is really just another name for junior high. I think they
stopped calling it junior high when many school districts decided to
have 6th grade in junior high/middle school. When I was in school 6th
grade was still elementary school.) Then high school is 9th - 12th
grade.

Deanne

[Beth]

Post by Deanne
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:22:17 +0800, DRP535

Post by Deanne
Hi. In the U.S. high school is generally 9th - 12th grade. Schools
usually start with kindergarten and then go first - 9th grade.

Oops! I just noticed I had a goof here! Schools usually start with
Kindergarten (usually about age 5) and go through 12th grade, not 9th
grade, but it's not all in the same school building. <G> (Nowadays
many kids also go to preschool starting at age 3 or 4, too, but that's
not necessarily public school.)
Usually elementary or grammar school is kindergarten through 5th or
6th grade. Middle school is 6th - 8th grade or 7th - 8th grade.
(This is really just another name for junior high. I think they
stopped calling it junior high when many school districts decided to
have 6th grade in junior high/middle school. When I was in school 6th
grade was still elementary school.) Then high school is 9th - 12th
grade.
Deanne

If we want to get technical, according to my education professors, there is
a difference between a middle school and a junior high. It actually doesn't
matter which grades are involved. My school district (which my little
brother now attends) actually moved 5th grade from the elementary to the
middle school. The difference is the way it is set up. Junior high schools
have classes geared towards getting the kids ready for high school. It is
more high school and less elementary in its setting and way of doing things.
Middle schools are supposedly aimed at creating a smoother transition
between elementary years and high school years.

[Christineee]

I remember a show that was on when I was at school called Degrassi Junior
High and I never knew exactly what "junior high" actually meant until now -
but that was a Canadian show set in Canada so it might be a bit different I
guess.

they have Degassi: The next generation on tv nowadays.

-- Christineee
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"We don't run pitchers out there drunk. The Yankees are hallowed ground and
everybody better tread lightly." - Brian Cashman - George Steinbrenner's
[Owner of the Yankees] Lap Dog

[Christineee]

Yeah I know. I saw one episode of it. Didn't like it. That's not terribly
surprising though since it doesn't have Stacie Mistysyn in it ;-)

I'm going to be 19 in december...I have no idea who stacie mistysyn is though
I'll assume she was on Degrassi from the
80's.

-- Christineee
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"We don't run pitchers out there drunk. The Yankees are hallowed ground and
everybody better tread lightly." - Brian Cashman - George Steinbrenner's
[Owner of the Yankees] Lap Dog

[DRP535]

Post by Christineee

Yeah I know. I saw one episode of it. Didn't like it. That's not terribly
surprising though since it doesn't have Stacie Mistysyn in it ;-)

I'm going to be 19 in december...I have no idea who stacie mistysyn is though
I'll assume she was on Degrassi from the
80's.

Correct. She played Caitlin Ryan